Murci....... keep going UP UP UP

[REKIII]

So...it took me 20 years to go from Gallardo dreamer to Gallardo owner.
When I finally got it, the first thing my wife asked was, 'OK, now you're satisfied, we're done, right?" I said, "Ha, next on the wish list is a Murcielago!!"

Every day I see the prices just keep going up.

Perfect car would be a black or White LP. Don't really care about title or miles.

Crappy thing...I need to factor in the manual conversion budget as well.

Dreamers gonna dream. Hopefully by the time I'm 65.

 

[Luzifer]

I quickly checked the US autotrader, there's only 22 Murcies in the entire US for sale? The cheapest are 240K and 260K. These seem "relatively" inexpensive. Can't you come with a plan to make extra money? Starting a side hustle perhaps? I would only need an extra licence, I would open a residential roofing company. You'd get your Murcie in less than 2-3 years without selling your G. The profits are insane.

What if you sold the G the Lotus and the rolexes?

Are some parts starting to be impossible to find on these?

You know his one would be my pick of the litter!

 

[REKIII]

My time is so limited, any sort of side hustle would have to be almost 100% hands off. Just a sad state of my reality. But, I'll keep on keeping on.
Sure, I could sell the G, M5, Lotus, 911, and watches and be able to buy one tomorrow....but my joy of the 'new' Murci would be overshadowed by my regret of selling the other toys. I know, it's a weird condition.
Yes, parts are getting harder and harder to find. One of the main reasons to do the manual swap (besides the fact that automatics/egear makes a car soulless and boring) is to remove A LOT of complication and expensive fragile parts. As the cars age, more and more aftermarket is popping up to keep them on the road which is great.
That orange one is gorgeous.....too flashy for me.

 

[Luzifer]

Then think of it this way the sum of all your cars and watches brings you more joy than a Murcie would.

I never was a fan of the color orange until I saw the Boreali color on a Lambo. It's a complex color because it has pearl pigments in it and depending of the light it's not the same. I think borealis is a cheerful color just like sunset hues. Yellow or green definitely not for me.

I washed the car yesterday, the color so vibrant when it's clean. Then some sadness came over reminding me I have to store the car in a week or 2, it's supposed to snow this weekend and next week. Can't wait for the festival next year to be in a group of sports cars. I wish there was a club here to hang out with fellow enthusiasts. Actually there's one club... I should ask the Ferrari club if they accept a Lambo guy!

 

[REKIII]

You are 100% correct, I do get more joy out of what I have BUT....that doesn;t stop me from dreaming about adding to the stable.

See....I AM a fan of orange. My company logo is orange based. I also like all the Verde derivatives and most reds.....I just can't own one, doesn't fit me.

A clean car, any color is amazing.
Usually Porsche and F-car clubs are pretty welcoming, however you WILL be a second class citizen...but that is part of the deal I suppose. It's funny, there is a ferrari guy local here that goes on the local lotus drives (which would be amazing to join, but I can't) his car is far superior to all of our lotus combined, but he loves the driving aspect of the group. All about what you are looking for.

 

[Luzifer]

Yeah I know what you mean about being second class in a Ferrari group except I get so many brownie points with the wives because of the orange H. They go out of their way to tell me they love the color and one wife secretly admitted to me her husband wanted to wrap his daily that color!

The festival I participated in the last 2 years, the car show, the group ride, the parade and speed demo is organized by the Ferrari club.

This summer I was the one who planned the group ride as the organizers didn't have a route plan for that part. Before the ride some guys came to see the H and chat, one of them was the provincial president of the F club, he said he had a Lambo too and wanted to drive his that day but he couldn't because it would of looked bad for him.

I was last in line for the ride and didn't want to be left out back so early on I took the second lane at the light, everyone was following the first guy, I ended up being the first one! When we got on the highway they were so slow, I decided to go at my usual pace and a few Ferraris decided to follow scared to get lost. When we got back the guy behind me, an out of towner, loved it. I was just trying to keep him off my tail but he kept speeding up. I had to speed up so he wasn't so close.

The next car, the wife said to me, "young man you were going quite fast!"

https://lambospot.com/threads/festival-event-of-the-year.99/

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[6102Perf]

A good friend of mine is a huge Murcielago fan, so I hear about them often. His ultimate dream car is a gated LP640 coupe. But like you, he's always pointing out how the prices keep rising (especially the factory gated examples), and he's starting to accept the realization that he'll likely never own one. It's very sad to me when people think this way, you should never limit yourself, there's always a way to get where you want to be if you're willing to put the work in and make the sacrifices to get there.

He currently owns a gated V10 R8 coupe which he also adores, but his heart is with the Murcie. I will admit the Murcielago has AMAZING presence in person. It's a very clean, smooth design and looks far more impressive in person with its low, very wide stance and nice curves. And the sound of the V12 goes without saying. I see a yellow coupe in my area frequently and it always catches my eye.

When I got my Perf, he was the first friend I took for a ride cause he has such an appreciation for cars of all varieties. I hope he gets his Murcie one day, but he just got married this past summer, so I told him that will likely set his plan back a few years. At least that's what I hear from married dudes, I have never been married myself

 

[6102Perf]

Might as well add another pic to this thread...

 

[REKIII]

he's starting to accept the realization that he'll likely never own one. It's very sad to me when people think this way, you should never limit yourself, there's always a way to get where you want to be if you're willing to put the work in and make the sacrifices to get there.

At least that's what I hear from married dudes, I have never been married myself

Sometimes it's not limiting ones self, it's realizing the facts of reality. Very few people can do this. For instance, I'll tell people that I'm a piece of garbage (usually in more colorful language) and I get the 'oh don't say that, be positive, blah blah blah'. But the reality is, there are truths that can't be denied. You wouldn't say I was wrong if I called your car 'black', it's a truth. No matter how positive I am, your car is not yellow. Your friend has realized a Murci is impossible, as have I. Sure, there could be a lotto fallout, or an investment that unexpectedly turns for the better, but the reasonable reality is that our income production will continue to be outpaced by the Murci's rise in value. Each person only has so much value, as do the cars. They don't always match.

You said you were 'younger than the norm' for lambo ownership. Since I see most guys in Gallardos and Huracans in their early 20's, I'll assume you are just 18. Your income potential will keep rising and most likely continue to outpace car values. By 23 you should be able to acquire a Chiron, and maybe by 28 a McClaren F1 or Ferrari F40...if vintage is your thing. We are not the same.

And yes...marriage slows down a lot of things. My kids are 19 and 21, so I'm seeing that I failed at life regarding anything for myself, and can only hope my kids succeed where I didn't. Otherwise I'm just waiting to die.

 

[Sakura]

Sometimes it's not limiting ones self, it's realizing the facts of reality. Very few people can do this. For instance, I'll tell people that I'm a piece of garbage (usually in more colorful language) and I get the 'oh don't say that, be positive, blah blah blah'. But the reality is, there are truths that can't be denied. You wouldn't say I was wrong if I called your car 'black', it's a truth. No matter how positive I am, your car is not yellow. Your friend has realized a Murci is impossible, as have I. Sure, there could be a lotto fallout, or an investment that unexpectedly turns for the better, but the reasonable reality is that our income production will continue to be outpaced by the Murci's rise in value. Each person only has so much value, as do the cars. They don't always match.

You said you were 'younger than the norm' for lambo ownership. Since I see most guys in Gallardos and Huracans in their early 20's, I'll assume you are just 18. Your income potential will keep rising and most likely continue to outpace car values. By 23 you should be able to acquire a Chiron, and maybe by 28 a McClaren F1 or Ferrari F40...if vintage is your thing. We are not the same.

And yes...marriage slows down a lot of things. My kids are 19 and 21, so I'm seeing that I failed at life regarding anything for myself, and can only hope my kids succeed where I didn't. Otherwise I'm just waiting to die.

You sound like a humble realist. That is a pretty rare quality these days.

The family I grew up with always taught that if you truly want something and work hard enough, you will eventually get it. Sounds inspiring at first, but in reality it is a pretty stressful way to live. My ancestors were stubborn optimists, and I clearly inherited a slightly delusional version of that mindset. Sometimes people just need to relax and enjoy life.

In the end, cars are fun, but sometimes family, kids, and even good friends are the real treasures.

 

[Luzifer]

A good friend of mine is a huge Murcielago fan, so I hear about them often. His ultimate dream car is a gated LP640 coupe. But like you, he's always pointing out how the prices keep rising (especially the factory gated examples), and he's starting to accept the realization that he'll likely never own one. It's very sad to me when people think this way, you should never limit yourself, there's always a way to get where you want to be if you're willing to put the work in and make the sacrifices to get there.

He currently owns a gated V10 R8 coupe which he also adores, but his heart is with the Murcie. I will admit the Murcielago has AMAZING presence in person. It's a very clean, smooth design and looks far more impressive in person with its low, very wide stance and nice curves. And the sound of the V12 goes without saying. I see a yellow coupe in my area frequently and it always catches my eye.

When I got my Perf, he was the first friend I took for a ride cause he has such an appreciation for cars of all varieties. I hope he gets his Murcie one day, but he just got married this past summer, so I told him that will likely set his plan back a few years. At least that's what I hear from married dudes, I have never been married myself

Speaking of marriages,

I've seen so many men getting close to 70 years old sometime even older weezing or taking breaks to climb half a flight of stairs, they still worked in harsh conditions while I carried their toolbox back to their car. They still worked because their exes had low paying jobs or none at all so they took these men to the cleaners from divorces or common living. They couldn't retire.

I learned from them, good thing I didn't marry nor lived with my ex because I would of lost the cars, the house, my bank account, probably the business and probably my meager retirement fund when I was an employee.

 

[REKIII]

You sound like a humble realist. That is a pretty rare quality these days.

The family I grew up with always taught that if you truly want something and work hard enough, you will eventually get it. Sounds inspiring at first, but in reality it is a pretty stressful way to live. My ancestors were stubborn optimists, and I clearly inherited a slightly delusional version of that mindset. Sometimes people just need to relax and enjoy life.

In the end, cars are fun, but sometimes family, kids, and even good friends are the real treasures.

Being humble is very important, as is understanding reality. Being optimistic is not a bad thing (I am not optimistic, but I do see it's value). I also kind of agree to the 'if you work hard enough, you will eventually get it' thing...but it always needs context. If I really want to be the assistant to Atilla the Hun, there is literally no way that could happen. It's always tough to balance your wants/hopes with reality, and I even think it's OK to push that boundary. Don't put society imposed limits on what you want. Also be very aware that you might fail....and that's OK.

Speaking of marriages,

I've seen so many men getting close to 70 years old sometime even older weezing or taking breaks to climb half a flight of stairs, they still worked in harsh conditions while I carried their toolbox back to their car. They still worked because their exes had low paying jobs or none at all so they took these men to the cleaners from divorces or common living. They couldn't retire.

I learned from them, good thing I didn't marry nor lived with my ex because I would of lost the cars, the house, my bank account, probably the business and probably my meager retirement fund when I was an employee.

I married very young. We turned 22 on our honey moon. We both had nothing. Everything we have we built together. I can't imagine being established and trying to start a life with someone. I also know that when my wife leaves me (she should....really) that she will get everything. That's just how it is supposed to be.

 

[Sakura]

Being humble is very important, as is understanding reality. Being optimistic is not a bad thing (I am not optimistic, but I do see it's value). I also kind of agree to the 'if you work hard enough, you will eventually get it' thing...but it always needs context. If I really want to be the assistant to Atilla the Hun, there is literally no way that could happen. It's always tough to balance your wants/hopes with reality, and I even think it's OK to push that boundary. Don't put society imposed limits on what you want. Also be very aware that you might fail....and that's OK.

This. I was raised to be a perfectionist, and any mistakes were met with scolding or cold looks. I wish I had understood this when I was a kid, so I wouldn't have spent so many years beating myself up at the expense of my mental health. Your kids are lucky to have you. I had to learn the lesson the hard way as an adult, but life has become much easier since then. I still struggle with perfectionist OCD that has poisoned my system, but a bit of reality-based detox has helped in the last couple of decades.

Speaking of the Murci, I think it's simply out of reach right now because of inflation. Hopefully that is temporary. I remember that around the time of the Lehman shock and the subprime mortgage crisis, car values dropped like a rock. Someone I knew was trying to sell his Countach for about half the usual market price. No one bought it then, and now it is worth roughly double the average.

 

[Luzifer]

The V12 sound great but I'm not a real fan of how it looks on the exterior. Some interiors are nice though. I wouldn't want this car because I read if I'm not mistaking some parts are no longer available. That's a huge problem to me.

 

[SmoothOperator]

I feel like the murci sv is the one to own, and clearly the market agrees. They have become so unobtainum for me and/most and even if my life situation massively changes I can afford to drop a mill+ on one vehicle, how can you even enjoy driving it when its virtually irreplaceable.

 

[REKIII]

The V12 sound great but I'm not a real fan of how it looks on the exterior. Some interiors are nice though. I wouldn't want this car because I read if I'm not mistaking some parts are no longer available. That's a huge problem to me.

Honestly....the rarity and NLA stuff is what makes them cooler for me. I want to drive it, and it will always be exclusive.

I feel like the murci sv is the one to own, and clearly the market agrees. They have become so unobtainum for me and/most and even if my life situation massively changes I can afford to drop a mill+ on one vehicle, how can you even enjoy driving it when its virtually irreplaceable.

Agreed on all points. Honestly for me, I'd like to get an LP, manual swap it and put an SV body kit on it. That would be the ultimate Murci. One I could rive and not worry (too much) about.

 

[Luzifer]

Honestly....the rarity and NLA stuff is what makes them cooler for me. I want to drive it, and it will always be exclusive.



Agreed on all points. Honestly for me, I'd like to get an LP, manual swap it and put an SV body kit on it. That would be the ultimate Murci. One I could rive and not worry (too much) about.

I don't think you understood what I meant. For example one day your Murcie stalls and doesn't want to start again, you find out the broken part is no longer made or available anywhere effectively rending the car a paperweight. Would you be okay with that?

 

[Sakura]

I don't think you understood what I meant. For example one day your Murcie stalls and doesn't want to start again, you find out the broken part is no longer made or available anywhere effectively rending the car a paperweight. Would you be okay with that?

@Luzifer this is your chance to become the next Singer that modified old Porsches. You can sell modified Murci cars for millions of dollars

 

[Luzifer]

@Luzifer this is your chance to become the next Singer that modified old Porsches. You can sell modified Murci cars for millions of dollars

An Aventador engine & gearbox transplanted into a non working Murcie. Anyone has 1.5 extra million to start this project?

 

[Luzifer]

I feel like the murci sv is the one to own, and clearly the market agrees. They have become so unobtainum for me and/most and even if my life situation massively changes I can afford to drop a mill+ on one vehicle, how can you even enjoy driving it when its virtually irreplaceable.

I think those guys take it out only twice a year to cars and coffee. Mostly garage ornament. I think they are not driving enthusiasts instead they prefer a sitting art object. Take a look at most Corvette guys, they never take their car out so not to get any miles, they try to save it for the underverse.

For example this Diablo, the guy never platted it or drove it since he imported it from the middle east several years ago. He trailers it to cars shows, drops it and drives 50 feet to a parking spot.